Here's an idea of the commitment needed, looking at the league stats Worcester look like they have a home gate of 8000-9000 and its costing them £7m/season on top of all their other funding/income to scrape up the last two years.
I know the public announcement of not accepting promotion wasn't well received but the disclosure would've been made by the RFU even if the club didn't make it.
Its clearly unrealistic to leap from where any of the Championship clubs are into the AP without serious risk of going under without a trace.
However that does not mean that we should give up on the dream - the cartel (PRL) and RFU who are trying to ring fence the Premiership need to remove the blinkers from their eyes and look at how they revitalise the whole league structure without selfishly thinking of the 12 (plus 1/2 visiting the championship). I think they have forgotten who they are and where they came from.
I think before Leeds/Yorkshire's financial woes the RFU dreamt of scrapping the Anglo Welsh Cup and having a 14 team Premiership with the current 12 plus Bristol and Yorkshire and then closing the door on it, but Yorkshire are back in with the also ran's now!
Coventry showed real investment in National One and will come up next year with a very competitive outlook, but with Wasps now on their doorstep they'll reach a glass ceiling too.
The Championship needs funding so clubs can afford to make it £10 to get in and whilst the winner goes up places 2-5 should playoff towards a show-piece final at Twickenham as a double header with the AP final...also some sort of squad sharing - like the one mooted so that the Premiership squads aren't holding a pool of 600 players at their disposal.
Has consideration been given to putting the Premiership and Championship under a single body and ring-fencing that structure as full-time rugby with National 1 then heading-up the amateur and part-time game? Is that somewhat akin to how the French organise their set-up?
With a moderately disappointing season now behind us I've been watching like many the various post season developments and preseason preparations at our club and amongst others with interest and I wanted to reaffirm my position that the level of ambition and direction that the club are going in are exactly the right ones at this time.
I've posted a link above highlighting another signing London Irish have made - on top of Sean O'Brien and Paddy Jackson and various other top flight quality moves both in and out of there squad and with Newcastle Falcons coming down and being in the enviable position of being able to loan out their star players to other Premiership clubs for a year per release clauses in their contracts whilst they no doubt canter back into the Premiership next season there is little point in the club trying to invest what it hasn't really got in chasing a pipe dream - which in reality wouldn't be that much fun if even achieved!
Instead we are seeing continued thought and investment in the pathway for our youngsters to take from mini junior through to first team rugby, which for more will reap far more rewards for the club than all in tilt at getting thrashed every week with players on one year contracts!
We have a full time Academy establishing itself, growing and attracting rugby motivated talent to within the clubs structure. We have 3/4 professional coaches operating within this academy; Lewis, Challoner, List, Cusack - what can be better for youngsters than that?
We have Glen Kenworthy now tasked with overseeing the pathway and development of all stages of that process and a 60 cap 6 test British Lion coming in to coach and then manage the first team, the future should be considered bright?
Although I like an away game as much as anyone many are Friday night or Sunday afternoon and should the time come where the Knights are playing top end Championship rugby and the Phoenix are guided to a level of potential semi professional status and both are packed with home grown talent that we can support on alternate Saturdays then we'll all be very happy I'm sure? This will be the route success and filling the seats of Castle Park and building a club with the solidest of foundations when you look around at how others are struggling now.
In 5 years time we could be the place to be for rugby in an area probably a quarter of the country - North of Leicester, South of the Tyne and anywhere east of Manchester, we already have the facilities, the playing surface, the 4G and the base for the infrastructure and with the ambition that is being shown away from the first team (although the first team itself is taking a pleasing shape too) I think we should all be 100% behind the club and not let a few late season defeats cloud just exactly what we have got!
Here's to the future and 3000 watching 10 Donny lads in a Knights shirt....
Nice one Saladdodger. Investing long term in real estates, fixed assets and player development is far better and more sustainable than just investing in highly paid individuals for a short period. That's what Exeter did, shame Leeds did not.
Don't know how I missed your post Saladdodger but well said and totally agree.
Mr Machin I am confused by the CVA in that what does it ultimately mean - they have 6 weeks to clear their debt (but if 3 of the overseas lot are refusing the offers and wanting it all what can Carnegie expect as an outcome?)
Martin The Key point is that 75% of the Creditors must agree or the CVA will fail I think that they could also have problems with the rules and regs of the RU and they could face a points deduction from last season resulting in relegation to Nat 1 or even a demotion to an even lower league My charging rate is £300.00 per hour plus VAT I will bill you accordingly.
martinc: Enjoy your trip to Jersey lads. COYK! COYK! COYK!
Sept 1, 2017 13:34:49 GMT
kenner: Just a Question if I may? Why after a season and on to the second can we not get an actual picture of Aaron Carpenter on the players site? Did not someone just take team photos?
Sept 21, 2017 19:35:08 GMT
Sir Spicious: I fear there are rumours that Aaron may, in fact, be a vampire and as such his image does not reflect in mirrors nor can it be captured in a photo. I should, however, warn you this may be fake news.
Sept 27, 2017 10:35:26 GMT
davinor: What's happened to the back ex Ealing Trailfinders - one mention and then no more
Oct 6, 2017 10:34:59 GMT
davinor: What happened to the back brought in from Ealing Trailfinders - one mention and then nothing ddavinor
Oct 6, 2017 10:38:07 GMT
Sir Spicious: Played at the RAG last week. Due to play at Hartpury tomorrow.
Oct 6, 2017 20:37:48 GMT
thomasmachin: Interesting C V on wikopedia
Nov 13, 2017 16:24:14 GMT
thomasmachin: The venue for the Cardiff match appears to have changed for the third time.Unbelievable
Dec 15, 2017 11:14:49 GMT
iiiii: Should I be worried re trip to pirates ?will pitch dry out in time?
Feb 11, 2018 8:39:42 GMT
funches: How come there's only 3 games this weekend? Is it just scheduling or?
Mar 10, 2018 10:24:11 GMT
thomasmachin: It would appear that if we are to replace the departing players we had better be quick or all the available players will be signed by Ealing ,Coventry and Cornish Pirates!
Apr 20, 2018 8:14:16 GMT
barbelhunter: What a great re signing that is.
Apr 27, 2018 10:38:07 GMT
donnyknightsfan: that was absolutely dire today almost from start to finish apart from a spell in the 2nd half when we looked OK. players don't look motivated enough to me. they need a kick up the backside. the next two games v Bedford and Irish look a tough ask now.
Oct 6, 2018 21:04:32 GMT
thomasmachin: I don't think a Vera Brown tribute singer will sell the Forces Lunch as well as a Vera Lynn tribute singer !!
Oct 22, 2018 10:24:33 GMT
rodders: A bit random this one but are any Knights fans travelling to the Jersey game on Friday 1st March flying from East Midlands on the 10.55 flight out. 2 of us are looking for a lift to East Midlands airport unexpectedly. Happy to share costs of travel
Feb 17, 2019 19:52:21 GMT
donnyknightsfan: after yesterday's showing a new attacking coach and structure is needed ASAP. our attack is really poor. why don't we ever look to create space?. you're not going to beat championship defences by just running straight at them.
Apr 21, 2019 8:19:53 GMT
thomasmachin: I would support any reasonable suggestion to support the Club
Mar 26, 2020 20:03:51 GMT
lock: Hi, I'm new to the Knights Forum. Hello everyone!
Jun 4, 2020 10:15:57 GMT
Sir Spicious: Sorry, Lock. I think most of us forget to check the Shoutbox so it wasn't bad manners that we ignored you, more bad habits. Welcome to the chat. Look forward to your contributions. New voices are always welcome.
Jun 9, 2020 13:32:08 GMT